Going to a psychologist is more expensive than doing drugs, amirite?

Most drugs are very inexpensive. The overall costs of being an addict, not cheap.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

That's why you don't do the drugs that are addictive.

by schinnerwilton 1 week ago

Exactly, I go to a therapist but have had more meaningful realizations about myself doing shrooms than I have from therapy and 1oz of shrooms costs less than one therapy session

by greenholtbrandy 1 week ago

Same thing happened to me and I'm much more resilient to bad experiences and trauma. I was drugged, robbed, and nearly died in Medellin last year. Didn't really phase me. Saw it as an opportunity to grow. Lost my job 2 days later. That got to me a bit but I accepted it really quickly. Then in April my mom was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and given 6 months to live. I didn't accept it and rejected the conclusion that she would die in 6 months. She's been doing treatment and has a chance to make it.

by schinnerwilton 1 week ago

most of the time, fixing something is more expensive than damaging if

by Alert-Joke2769 1 week ago

You win

by harmon88 1 week ago

Psychedelics did more for me in a few months than therapy and pharmaceuticals in 10 years.

by schinnerwilton 1 week ago

Kinda seems like being drugged robbed and nearly killed was more transformative than the drugs lol

by Anonymous 1 week ago

you're doing it wrong. I go to my psychiatrist and do ketamine and the mfg rebates so much of the cost it tricks my insurance into thinking i've paid my deductible when i've really spent $200. and it cures my depression!

by lilliankoss 1 week ago

So the manufacturer charges you like $3k, but then 'rebates' or discounts it down to $200, but they still tell your insurance that you paid the $3k (or whatever amount)? That... sounds like fraud, but I certainly won't be the one to tell them anything.

by homenickemmett 1 week ago

It's legal if they don't catch him

by Anonymous 1 week ago

This is how literally every business operates. Selling something they paid less for.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I don't think your experience is the norm, but I'm happy for you though (genuinely)

by Sokeefe 1 week ago

How would doing drugs help you?

by Clarabelle65 1 week ago

I mean.. psychedelics can certainly help. And cannabis. Not for everyone ofc. But there are reports of people trying everything under the sun for depression, who've found cannabis to be the best medication by far. I mean, I consider cannabis to be one of the main reasons for wanting to live myself, with everything it does to improve my life quality. Not saying it can/will for everyone, but it certainly can for some! Probably depends on one's individual brain chemistry

by Xfisher 1 week ago

Psilocybin assisted therapy has a protocol with a growing evidence base supporting efficacy especially with treatment resistant depression! It should ideally be done with a therapist's support

by Old_Fold_4072 1 week ago

I'm very happy for you! Anecdotally I've done psilocybin before and still experience my stuff. I can only recommend what has been researched

by Old_Fold_4072 1 week ago

For real. For every good result in a controlled study there are 100 x more people who took it recreationally and cured themselves by accident. I'm guessing the number of course

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I began my journey to quit alcohol due to an epiphany from a psychedelic experience. Never needed to repeat the psychedelic, and I have been really feeling healthier than ever. It was like a catalyst for respecting my body!

by Gold-Ad-7117 1 week ago

I quit smoking cold turkey after tripping on acid.

by schinnerwilton 1 week ago

I did therapy for 10 years and on medication for most of that time. Therapy was $350/month and medication another $80. About 2 years I bought an oz of magic mushrooms for $200 and started Microdosing, then tripped for the first time. A month later my depression and anxiety were basically gone. I continued to do mushrooms and also LSD ($15/tab). My life is in many ways worse (lost my job, was nearly murdered a year ago, mom has stage 4 cancer) than it was back then but my depression and anxiety no longer get in the way of me having a good day. I'm optimistic, to the point people don't recognize me. Drugs help.

by schinnerwilton 1 week ago

It wouldn't, but you might think to yourself it does

by Anonymous 1 week ago

This was a problem I had when I was drinking excessively. Therapy can get expensive, alcohol is pretty cheap. Therapy though helped me though in ways beyond just monetarily.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Can you explain how actually? What was the process with your therapy if you dont mind me asking?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Thanks for opening up, it helps to hear about other people paths and stories, especially when at a crossroad, wishing you the best!

by Anonymous 1 week ago

As someone with sever depression and some other stuff drugs (and or alcohol) keeps me from killing myself quite often, where medication doesn't do that for me unfortunately. Of course it's far from ideal considering what it does to my body (blabla we all know), but I'm still here, so that's something I guess and without I know for sure I wouldn't be here anymore.

by ShallotBackground739 1 week ago

digital hug

by Anonymous 1 week ago

That's sweet. Thank you!

by ShallotBackground739 1 week ago

I would say my depression and anxiety are more manageable when I'm sober if smoking in the evening is part of my routine. I don't have to be high all the time to get the benefits of cannabis, and in fact I'm rarely high outside the house and before 9:30

by Anonymous 1 week ago

The addiction epidemic centers around opioids, cocaine, and meth, not psychedelics

by beckergreyson 1 week ago

Yall have availability with psychologists in your countries? Must be nice not having wait lists that are years long for the few my region has.... gonna smoke the weed while im forced to wait and hey, weed is legal here now and has been since 2018! I didnt start this habit, but it sure would be funny if it finished me. I haven't even been able to see a psychiatrist (the one who prescribed the medication, psychologists are even more rare here!) since like 2021. Lmao. And you can afford paid therapy? Wowee loook at you, how lucky!

by Other-Drop 1 week ago

Cheer up! Just ask GPT to behave as one! It's the future /s

by Anonymous 1 week ago

GPT? I had Dr. Sbaitso that came bundled with my Sound Blaster around 1991.

by jtorp 1 week ago

Im laughing rn, that's so funny /s

by Other-Drop 1 week ago

Glad you found what works for you :)

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Thanks!

by Nicholascrona 1 week ago

Doing drugs will probably have you end up at a psychologist so it's double dipping into the expenses

by Anonymous 1 week ago

No one sells everything they own for psychedelics

by samanthakerluke 1 week ago

Well, not everywhere in Europe are these free, usually they are when minor or related to work

by Anonymous 1 week ago

That's the American dream.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

but it's just as addicting :)

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Crazy times? Can't see a doc, gotta self medicate. At least the grass is always greener, right?

by Icy_Distribution 1 week ago

I wanted to, but no one guarantee that therapy would work so it's hard to make a move and go to therapy.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I'd say that it's worth trying one session and see how you feel? Like others have said, it's good to see it as an investment

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Year ago i tried therapy, it was costly but kinda necessary. But i didn't feel result at all. Now i have desire to seek help again but i fear the same conclusion. I don't mind spending money, but as i said no one can guarantee results. Thank you for cheering me up a bit

by Anonymous 1 week ago

About as helpful as psychology too.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

My gym membership is free with insurance reimbursement. I go 3/4 times a week for about an hour. Best therapy for me. Loud music and singular focus .

by jessika87 1 week ago

That's one good advice

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Lmfaoooo this was too good

by Tyler11 1 week ago

And most of the time, less effective.

by Trick_Amount9747 1 week ago

I work in homeless outreach. I've never had a client who needed my services because they went to too much therapy.

by Watsicamarlin 1 week ago

Second this. They are paid for your attendance and not you're success. If you learn the self awareness, and skills to cope with your issues on your own they will no longer get paid.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Most people who need therapy are there because for whatever reason that cannot learn these skills and coping mechanisms by themselves, which becomes even harder when you factor in mental illness. Telling people to fix their own problems is a big reason people don't seek help and suffer for longer unnecessarily. There is overwhelming scientific evidence supporting the effectiveness of therapy in treating psychological problems. Would you say the same thing of physicians or other doctors? Technically if your doctor helps cure your illness then you won't have to come back as much and they won't make as much money. Sure there are bad doctors, but this isn't how the industry works as a whole. If you are someone who is perfectly mentally healthy and just naturally knows how to cope with your own issues and traumas then good for you, but that just isn't realistic for so many people.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I've been hospitalized twice for mental illness, and been on medications for 12 years. Scientifically Cognitive Behavioural Therapy works... In a clinical setting because people have to participate. In the real world it is a competitive system where people can choose to go to therapists that offer pleasant solutions and don't challenge their perceived concept of self. Any therapist that challenges the patient isn't likely to see repeat business. So you end up with therapists that try to build a long term relationship and sneak in small changes so their patient doesn't leave or start maliciously complying. Instead of pointing out things like: -If you expect more from people then you offer they have the right to cut you out of their lives. -Social manipulation and neglect, in a relationship, are forms of abuse. -That they over-value their contributions while de-valuing others. -They are a toxic person. -That mental illness is not a scapegoat for being accountable or growing as a person. -That they have taken on a ''Victim Identity" to get attention, be selfish, and avoid their actual problems. Also, you don't "cure" mental health issues. You treat them.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Their credibility is at stake if that was 100% true but theres for sure some patients they keep longer than they probably should

by Anonymous 1 week ago

a friend with weed is a friend indeed

by frobel 1 week ago

A friend with breasts and all the rest

by ShallotBackground739 1 week ago

I pay a $30 copay twice a month to see my therapist, and I spend a few hundred a month on weed. So I'm going to have to sort of disagree with you there.

by Embarrassed-Hat8756 1 week ago

Have you ever had a coke habit?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

IDK what you're talking about, here with insurance it's free, and the pills are like 8 bucks a month. 8 dollars worth of pot is barely a joint and you can't even buy 8 dollars of coke.

by estherkerluke 1 week ago

Don't need an appointment either. Liquor store is always open. And I don't have to tell a stranger my problems. Shame about everything else tho.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Dude you know how much rehab costs? And this is why we need public healthcare

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Nope. Not at all. Not even close. Not even kind of. When I was struggling with stuff like that I went from a £10 bag a night all the way too 80-120 a day within a month or two.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Doesn't last as long as an addiction tho.

by qschimmel 1 week ago

I've been sober for exactly 200 days today and I've saved about 50.000 nok, which is about 4.500$

by smithjerome 1 week ago

Not far from the truth, and thank you :)

by smithjerome 1 week ago

This just in: getting hooked on crack is cheaper than buying a mansion! Thanks guy!

by Diannaziemann 1 week ago

You've never done drugs before, have you. There is a reason that people lose everything they have to drugs. It's not because they are more economical than getting professional help.

by Leuschkegerard 1 week ago

and buddy, I'm a cheapskate

by Anonymous 1 week ago

If you consider losing family, friends, any ability at a normal life and a quick death cheap then yeah....

by Anonymous 1 week ago

That's why trauma is the real gateway drug.

by Albakassulke 1 week ago

You have never had a cocaine addiction then.

by AdBubbly 1 week ago

Financially, yes. Mentally, probably also yes. Physically, depends on what drug.

by Funny_Objective 1 week ago

I prefer to relieve my stress by confiding in my close friend over a few drinks.

by kayleigh70 1 week ago

This reminds me of a conversation I had with some classmates. Mind you, all graduate students between 22 and 28 yo. We are all just studying in the library of our uni when one of my buddies exclaims "wow BetterHelp is like €70/week, guess I'll just be depressed." To which we all laughed a little and another mentioned "yeah well weed is like €20/week." It really just be like that. Terrible shame, but those are the economics of a mental health epidemic.

by Horror-Estimate 1 week ago

Psychologists often recommend you to take drugs anyway, typically antidepressants.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Most of which are trash and make things worse, at least for me.

by schinnerwilton 1 week ago

Approximately the same price as visiting a prostitute.

by orion67 1 week ago

Drugs is what will drive you to a psychologist. Keep f ucking up your brain.

by Gusikowskicurt 1 week ago

You can't OD on talking through your problems.

by oreillyrobin 1 week ago