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A.I. is taking the arts first and leaving the menial tasks for us. amirite?
by Anonymous1 week ago
I love how these people think AI started once they could write image prompts for big booba uncanny valley women.
by Anonymous1 week ago
And also that taking that away from commission "artists" on Twitter is literally destroying art
by Anonymous1 week ago
I only consume organic hentai thank you very much.
by No_Quote_15431 week ago
free-range tentacles ONLY
by Anonymous1 week ago
Organic hentai? That's… porn. Just regular porn
by Financial_Farm57681 week ago
Fine, vegan then. No actual women harmed or even involved.
by Anonymous1 week ago
So, gay porn?
by Original_Pace19751 week ago
Are men vegan?
by Old_Committee1 week ago
Yeah, this is very amusing to me
by Popular_Upstairs1 week ago
I love how "AI" has become nothing more than a marketing buzzword. Actual AI doesn't exist.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I think they separate it with the term AGI, now
by OkBedroom1 week ago
Neither does regular I, but whatever.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Well, but not actual AI. In fact, the first usages I can remember were dreaming and cooking recepies, many years ago, with Watson and Google Deepmind.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Does a programmed conversation tree that triggers off of keywords really count as AI though? I've written these out for small/medium companies before, it's really not advanced tech. Though I'm sure companies like Amazon use something a bit more sophisticated.
by Daynedietrich1 week ago
To be fair, writing is also an art.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Call centers are next I've already seen Ai startups for automated calling.
by Tbartell1 week ago
At least my job will be safe in Scotland. It'll be at least another two decades before they get the Scottish voice recognition patch
by Anonymous1 week ago
Yeh, a scoh'ish axen't es nót tew easeh fer sum.
by Far_League70741 week ago
Can ye rupea tha? Ah didne ken.
by cassiespencer1 week ago
I let my Google ai screen my calls so... Could we just not do the dance in the first place? End calling.
by Fragrant_Candy1 week ago
My phone has some feature to answer calls for me and get info from the caller (I think in my voice, but I'm not sure). I haven't tried it yet, but I found it interesting that that is an option now (It prompted me to set it up but I haven't gotten around to it)
by Due-Interaction72231 week ago
Yeah, it's unfortunate. Things made with intentional care and effort tend to resonate better. I'd take some sweet Amish furniture over Ikea any day.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Haha wouldn't anyone! People don't by IKEA furniture because it's the best.
by Dallinlubowitz1 week ago
Yeah that's my point. IKEA is reasonably good quality stuff for the price. That's why people buy from them. Not because it's their favourite or what they would ever choose if they had unlimited money.
by Dallinlubowitz1 week ago
At the IKEA's price point, you are very unlikely to find a product of better quality. You can buy furniture of better quality, but it will cost more, probably at least twice as much. That said, don't buy the cheapest version in IKEA's selection. Get at least the middle option, you will get your money's worth.
by naderisac1 week ago
If you think about arts as production of artistic images, then yes, this occupation is pretty much on the verge of dying. But what really makes an art unique isn't just about the produce itself. A no name artist can make a perfect reproduction of Mona Lisa and it'll still fetch peanuts compared to the real thing. What makes a piece of art truly valuable and unique is often the story behind the art and less the art themselves. There are many talented artists that can make art as good or even better than famous artists, but their pieces can never fetch anywhere near what some can do. Writing a couple prompts to an AI isn't a really compelling story to make a desirable art.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Sure, that's if you are talking about art that one would put in museums and art galleries. However, there are also art for other spaces such as for games, events, and many others im not thinking of. In those instances, we have already seen concrete proof of companies using AI art.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Exactly. Saying people can still make the equivalent of the Mona Lisa isn't very encouraging because 99.999% of art is not that kind. It's nice, skilled, but routine art used in a million places. It's would be like going back to France in the 1900s and getting rid of all the artists but saying "it's ok because we left Picasso."
by Tadpadberg1 week ago
You could make the same argument about clothes being made by machine It would be like going back to France in the 1900s and getting rid of all the clothiers(?) but saying "it's okay because we left the wedding dress makers" That's exactly what happened, and it's a good thing Sucks for the current artists without a doubt, but the next generation will simply have fewer commercial artists, and more "artistic" artists
by Anonymous1 week ago
I feel it is the same story like Chess. AI has been miles better than humans at Chess for the longest time but Chess is still going strong (some may even say much stronger than before). People still express themselves through Chess and I feel it is this "expression of self" that AI will not capture at all. At least not until true conscious AI kicks in.
by Legitimate-Mention121 week ago
I don't think the lack of AI being used in Chess has got anything to do with expression. It's because as humans we are naturally competitive and want to challenge ourselves and others to competition. It's more like the answers page of a puzzle book. We know it's there but there is just no fun in looking at it unless you're properly stuck.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Art is a game rigged for rich people. It has nothing to do with actual value
by Actual_Channel1 week ago
Humanity is cancelled.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Don't worry. A.I. will never be able to clean a toilet. There will still be jobs for us 😂
by Commercial-Tomato1 week ago
They can do that too.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Oh for the love of Christ. A human being can't clean toilets. Toilet brushes and bleach can. Have you ever seen a human clean a toilet by rubbing it with their fingers or licking it with their tongue? No, you haven't. (Not counting perverts) These brushes and bleaches might be held by a human, but the human isn't really what gets the toilet clean. Next time, don't split hairs so absurdly razor thin.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Do they use toilets now?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Why would AI need to clean a toilet?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Why would AI need to make images? Or do literally any task?
by Anonymous1 week ago
AI doesn't poop
by Anonymous1 week ago
They are using AI art for the portraits of gods in a remake of a game I used to play (Age of Mythology) and it's super obvious and tacky. The original art is full of expression and AI doesn't come close to doing that job right.
by Anonymous1 week ago
But it is doing that job...
by Anonymous1 week ago
Ai 'artists' asking for commissions is literally money laundering
by Tressielarkin1 week ago
It's taking the menial tasks too
by Nearby-Attention1 week ago
Just shows what we prioritize in this culture, consumption over creativity
by Anonymous1 week ago
Exactly. AI art isn't at the point it can innovate. It's only using pre-existing images and art pieces. Therefore, artists can still and still need to innovate. Without them, we'd just be stuck where we are today.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Yeah, I would say that most consumers would prefer a true creative experience, but will pay for whatever is presented to us. Enabling it is the equivalent of what your saying I suppose.
by Anonymous1 week ago
No, I wouldn't say it's enabling because I'm not just talking about the base level of consumption that we do while consume our products but rather the ideology of consumerism and how it's warped our perspectives and priorities. I feel like the world has lost a bit of its soul to base level pleasure and payout
by Anonymous1 week ago
Well the people who make AI are definitely using it to automation jobs, cashier jobs, data manipulation jobs, shelf stocking jobs, even basic customer service; definitely menial tasks. Because the people who use AI casually and are inflating a bunch of the hype lately aren't envious of the people who stock shelves and rearrange excel sheets. They can already do that, and nobody cares. They're envious of the people who can draw, and make music, and write poetry. So they make a machine to do it using cheap shortcuts, so they can bask in the attention and pretend that the final work is as meaningful as an artist who put their soul into a piece.
by Anonymous1 week ago
It's not about envy. Those things just turned out to be easier to automate with AI.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Opening a door isn't hard wdym, we have thousands of automatic doors.
by rick801 week ago
AI can walk pretty alright now, it's not trivial by any means but neural networks can do it
by Handmarguerite1 week ago
Correct, I suppose, and I don't like it. How can T-800 fulfil it's function if it can't walk? Just bore us to death with phase five Marvel movies?
by Anonymous1 week ago
I agree with most of your points, but the thing is most artists already don't make much money. Gotta pay the bills somehow. AI generated stuff has flooded the market and this diluted the cost of getting art made for a certain section of the market. It doesn't affect people who make art for recreation or passion. I guess they only thing to do is adapt to the market because AI tech is here to stay just like any other technological leap and it's more about learning how to use it for yourself.
by Anonymous1 week ago
The cost differential is so great I don't think people will. Think about an average commission - it would cost in the ballpark of maybe $100, but AI can generate one for cents or fractions of a cent. And as soon as AI is good enough that we can't tell the difference, there will be no way for consumers to choose human art. This will happen earlier for e.g. backgrounds and filler art than it will for promotional material, but it will happen over time.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Creating your own art is something only you can do, yes. In your small corner of the world you can express yourself and put your emotion to media. But how many songs, screenplays, pictures, etc. are already being produced by AI's interpretation of data? How long before every show or movie you watch is developed by an AI writer and augmented by an AI CGI animator? Meanwhile we're still by and large mowing lawns and taking out the garbage.
by Anonymous1 week ago
AI can't even write a short essay that sounds decent to human ears, let alone come up with some creative art form. There are very, very few songs, screenplays, pictures, etc being produced by AI. It will be centuries before it might have the ability to do that on its own.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Centuries?! LOL. It took only 52 years to go from the super pixelated, simple Pong game to stuff like this being viewed on devices that not that long ago used to fill an entire room but now fit into your pocket. Don't underestimate how fast technology can grow/evolve/adapt.
by Anonymous1 week ago
None of that is even remotely similar to having a machine able to be creative on its own. Humans did that, not an AI. AI is incapable of coming up with anything original, it's entirely derivative. Art isn't getting replaced by computers anytime in the foreseeable future.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Our tastes now days our pretty derivative too. We are to the point where a person can enter parameters for a product they are looking to make and AI can fill in the blanks, taking a good portion of the skill out of 'art.' What percentage of a piece of work would need to be AI generated before you considered it no longer art? 50%? 75%? 99.99999999%?
by Anonymous1 week ago
This is my biggest gripe about artists complaining about AI - they won't ever admit the only reason they're against it is greed.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Affording food and shelter through your art=greed is a take.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Yes, it is truly heinous that individuals who've dedicated thousands of hours into their craft would like to be able to support themselves and their families.
by Anonymous1 week ago
if you ever plan to open a dictionary start with greed.
by berryolson1 week ago
Uh excuse me lmao this is an objectively awful take. People wanting to make money from their profession is greed?
by Anonymous1 week ago
There's a gigantic difference between "I only do art so I can get paid" and "I need to get paid in order to do art". You talk like a person who has never struggled with money.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I never criticized your other points, so why bring them up? All I want is for you to acknowledge the point I made about art as a profession.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Capitalism doesn't want workers to be happier, more fulfulled, or more artistic, it wants them to make more money for capitalists.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Are you sure? I've been arting for a couple of decades now and AI helps me in the brainstorming part a whole big deal. I end up doing something better and faster than just a couple of years ago. I mean yeah if you weren't into art before AI, you can blame it now for not giving at a try.
by Anonymous1 week ago
There's something deeply ironic about writers and artists being amongst most vulnerable jobs in the first wave of AI. There's something deeply hilarious about AI also coming for the programming jobs early on after tech bros have been snarkily telling everyone else to 'learn to code' for more than a decade.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Just learn to code bro!
by Radiant-Jello-10721 week ago
Funnily enough your example of drawing an anime girl can be done on MS Paint. I think the tool is in open beta right now, but it's interesting.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I've always had a slightly different stance. Isn't AI a form of art - especially to a certain degree? Creativity isn't gone - it is still the human interface that directs the creativity. Also, there is a significant amount of pre-existing snobby behaviour in the art world. You've got your abstract art criticisms with pieces that are genuinely just buckets on a rope that sell for 1000's of dollars. And then you have the inner-critique of artists that scoff at certain styles (photo-realism etc...). The art world has been prophesying their own demise - they used to mock each other - and now they are being mocked as a collective whole. I consider that anyone who has the stance that AI art is a net-negative contribution to art culture is just perpetuating the vile snobbery that has always existed. It is honestly like getting upset at Google home for announcing weather ☁️ rather than watching the weatherman.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I would say no one would care if pulling weeds or picking up trash was outsourced to AI, but having something we generally enjoy being widely outclassed to the point of obsoletion by an AI would suck. Further, I don't have to ever meet an artist to connect with them through their art, but I don't think it would be the same with an AI. I guess we'll see.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Your last line is in no way a fair comparison. Art is in its purest essence an expression of the human mind and intelligence and that's why so may categories music, writing, film-making etc fall under it. There is no actual expression behind AI art, no actual mind aware of its own existence, it just regurgitates data onto an image.
by Anonymous1 week ago
By that definition no person is capable of generating art either, because we all need to rely on things we have seen or been taught in the past. There is no way for a human to create art completely in a vacuum either.
by Anonymous1 week ago
It is incredibly dramatic to conclude that the following generations of AI art will devolve into an "inbred" deformity. It has significantly improved - it has flaws, yes. Those flaws are really just quirks / bugs in the system - they are entirely correctable with generational improvements. One of the factors of improving AI art is to grade / measure other material to determine if it is AI art itself. I did originally detail the major concerns associated with AI generated imagery (deep fakes; intellectual property issues etc...) but this isn't a problem with AI - it is a problem with legislation - hence why I didn't include it. If it was such a major problem - then artists that produce art with heavy influence / reference to known art should be reprimanded. You'd really hate tourism in Europe - you leave an art museum and are immediately confronted with dozens of replica images from street artists - all for personal profit and gain. Every criticism launched at AI art is criticism that can be thrown at actual replication art made by humans. Also, since when is collaging information not considered a meaningful transformation of work? Regardless, I never debated that AI art doesn't have any associated negative impacts - I just don't think it should be villainised for innovating an industry.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Every criticism launched at AI art is criticism that can be thrown at actual replication art made by humans. Great. By the same token, please let the AI evangelists know that concerns around intellectual property apply in principle just as much to AI images as they do to people hawking cheap knock offs in the real world. Also, since when is collaging information not considered a meaningful transformation of work? When the selection of which works to include is semi-randomised by a pattern recognition tool with no intent behind which ones it selects.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Don't worry, it will come for the menial tasks next. Good luck finding a job after that.
by Alexandra881 week ago
AI still hasn't shown true originality in art though, it's always been remixes of current art made by humans.
by Weird-Mulberry1 week ago
I mean, the wealthy humans were already doing that. This is just more efficient for them.
by Anonymous1 week ago
We've gotten rid of many menial tasks with machinery without ai. You don't need ai for truly menial tasks. Lines in a factory, and the such, need specific machines.
by imiller1 week ago
They are taking the arts first because the arts is not an industry. They can grow and experiment without effecting the economy too much. Don't worry, the menial jobs will be taken eventually.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Although I have to say, generally every thing not just a picture generated by AI, I found a disliking to
by Hyattmichaela1 week ago
Wait till they take white collar jobs. Then the fun will really begin!
by Rude-Meeting1 week ago
Manual labor is cheap. Creative labor is expensive. Hence, they replace the expensive labor and leave us with the cheap labor.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Machines have already taken over most of menial tasks we need every day. You just don't think about washing machines, dishwashers, coffee makers etc precisely because we don't need to hire people to do those anymore.
by rick801 week ago
Somehow out of all of this, companies will make insane profits and we'll all be working longer, harder and for less money. It will benefit no one but the rich, yet again.
by Anonymous1 week ago
This is it
by Radiant-Jello-10721 week ago
Most menial jobs don't require some fancy AI to get rid of. We already got rid of tons of them.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Yes op, I saw the viral tweet that already said this too
by Anonymous1 week ago
"AI" being a scapegoat for peoples' actions seems to mean it has also taken on the accountability of others at the same time.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Is an extension of all the terrible musicians and artists who are desperate for attention but lack the talent.
by Kathryne761 week ago
If you truly think what we have now, the buzzword of "artificial intelligence" is actual artificial intelligence than that means their marketing was successful on you. Ironically, it might also say a lot about what somebody defines as or sees as intelligent. Take a cognitive science course or philosophy of mind course and you'll see why more experts are starting to refer to a truly thinking machine as Artificial Intentionality opposed to Artificial Intelligence. Basically: Intelligence isn't an apt metric to measure awareness - ChatGPT is intelligent like a calculator is intelligent, it has information but doesn't know what to do with it. They currently just reconstruct data to our permutations and nothing more. They lack intention
by Anonymous1 week ago
funny how you went on a completely unrelated ramble there at the end
by Anonymous1 week ago
Sir. If 'not AI' is capable of what we are seeing now in art, then when the awareness does come around we should just hang up our tools.
by Anonymous1 week ago
It would be a waste of my time to contemplate such assumptions anyways
by Anonymous1 week ago
AI makes pictures not art
by kinglaurence1 week ago
That's a fact, because art is such an easy to define term we can make grand proclamations like this.
by Anonymous1 week ago
most people ranting about AI pictures forget that the AI needs source material made by humans thus it only creates interpretations of different human artstyles. so no: art is not dying
by Anonymous1 week ago
What about GAI?
by bartonfrederiqu1 week ago
don't worry it's taking jobs too, if you're a software engineer...
by Useful_Fisherman4871 week ago
Not really, or at least not yet. I find the coding copilot waste about as much time as they save. I don't know of any system reliably using complete LLM generation code pipelines yet. But they will get better.
by Top_Organization_4891 week ago
Yeah I tried to code some scripts for a video game map and chatgpt lied to me about what sort of library functions were available in that specific language
by Ok_Collection1 week ago
Poeple say that supposedly it saves them time when writing boilerplate code, but reality usually is that you (or someone else in your team) has already written a library which you just use over and over again. I also found that while evaluating Copilot, that I was losing time, because it took me at least the same time writing the prompt, it would have taken me to just write the damn thing myself. And when it was wrong, it obviously took me double time because I did no progress at all 🙄
by Anonymous1 week ago
It isn't replacing software engineers any time soon lol
by Anonymous1 week ago
I love that I have ai to help me express my creativity. So many dream homes and gardens that I've never been able to paint or draw come to life. Haircuts I could never find online that I can now describe in vivid detail and it appears right there. If anything it's opened the gate that so many have tried to keep closed.
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