+61 Best weapon against school shootings are teachers that actually take the time to connect with their students. amirite?

by Anonymous 10 months ago

I think you mean the parents not even knowing or trying to connect with their children. Every time these parents are interviewed, they're just the shirtless parents I've ever seen.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Hey man sometimes it's hot out and I don't want to wear a shirt

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Autocorrect has defeated me once again.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

it's the parents/guns. teachers have nothing to do with this.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

In way too many cases the parents aren't involved so in a way you are correct.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

That's the point. If the parents aren't involved, it doesn't become the teachers job to raise the kid. It's still the parents fault. There is no passing the blame here. More parents need to face prison for the crimes of their children.

by kingbethany 10 months ago

Get the F outta here with that. I am not a teacher, I have no teachers in my family, I have no emotional connection to a teacher, but they are some of the last people to blame for this issue and the scapegoat for too many ridiculous things. WTF is wrong with the parents for this to happen? I love the fact that a dad is currently facing prison time because of his son shooting up a school. They are the only one's in a position to do anything about it. I can't discipline, raise, or pass your values on to your kid for you from a legal or ethical standpoint. They aren't my kid.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Although I don't necessarily agree with OP, they never say teachers are to blame, read again

by armandbarrows 10 months ago

Yeah but you can't change parents through public policy and spending, the cycle has to cut from the point of most control. Obviously guns are to blame too, but the place of blame is often not the same as the place of the solution.

by armandbarrows 10 months ago

"Yeah but you can't change parents through public policy" I hear that, but they shouldn't be left off the hook either. From a legal standpoint a kid has no agency. A parent is legally responsible for them. A kid doesn't just wake up one day and decide to do something like that at random. It's been years of going down a bad path and the only people responsible for them not caring enough to notice and or do something about it. Who are their friends? how are they doing emotionally and mentally? What are their interests? How do they spend their free time? What kind of s*** do they have in their room for Christ's sake? To me those are very normal basic questions.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Language doesn't work like that.

by armandbarrows 10 months ago

Sure, whatever you say

by dena82 10 months ago

Welcome to Australia

by dena82 10 months ago

Money's on don't care. If they cared they would connect. They would make time.

by Lewmoen 10 months ago

I can't argue that. I just think we should make it their problem and not a societal problem. Up until a certain age it's illegal to not have your kids in school. Social services and law enforcement will show up at your house, so we acknowledge some parents are crap and have rules in place to deal with it. When your kid does something as insane as a mass shooting I think you should suffer consequences. If nothing else it might make deadbeat parents care enough to try to cover their own ass.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

You obviously overestimate many many many parents. Many of these shooters fit a profile of being literally tortured in school. The term "bullying" belittles what happens to many children and is an inappropriate accounting of what their lives are like while in the care of schools.

by Ok-Math 10 months ago

Overestimate? It's your fuc*ing purpose in life as a parent. Ask your kid how things are going. Get involved. What decent parent knows their kid is getting beat up at school and does nothing about it?

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Big fan of actually having secure entry doors to keep bad actors ou. Not going to always work. But definitely would have in some scenarios. Or at least bought some time

by Gutkowskikayla 10 months ago

"Banning a tool will only move them to another." And maybe that tool isn't literally designed with one function in mind - to kill as efficiently and quickly as possible. This isn't an unpopular opinion, I don't know wtf this nonsense is.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Don't forget the first publicized shooting the shooters didn't just come armed with guns. Even in the 90s the instructions for pipe bombs was easier availabile.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

I live in a country where the education system is significantly worse than it is in the US and yet we've never had a school shooting in our history, because, what do you know, making guns illegal actually makes it harder for unhinged teens to get them and start killing people

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Yeah! I mean, it has nothing to do with the accessibility of guns and the inaccessibility of mental health care! damn teachers need to do MORE! /s Yes, this is unpopular. And stupid.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Easier to get the ingredients for a chlorine gas setup then a gun. Available at any target or Walgreens.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Are you saying in the rest of the developed world where school shootings are extremely rare and not a daily occurrence it‘s because teachers connect with their students?

by RulePuzzleheaded9043 10 months ago

Countries that ban guns don't have this problem, despite the wide availability of knives and cleaning products there.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Connect their students with black market guns dealers

by AddendumFickle6077 10 months ago

I think the real problem is that there are two major categories of school shootings and people conflate the two. The far more common case is gang violence that happens on school grounds in crime riddled inner city communities. This is a difficult problem to solve without actually addressing the underlying problem of gang violence in these communities. The less common case appears to be suicide by cop. Teens and young adults who enter into a school with the intention of killing as many people as possible before they kill themselves or are killed by cops. This sounds cliche but this has far more to do with these individuals mental health than anything else.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Congratulations, you said something unpopular.

by These-Car 10 months ago

That will improve education over all but nothing for shootings. Don't place this at the feet of teachers

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Getting rid of guns would move them to less deadly weapons

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Chlorine gas is even more painful way to die burning your soft tissue when it combines with water on and in you body becoming hydrochloric acid.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

It's deeply disturbing that you had that so immediately accessible

by Anonymous 10 months ago

It's the guns

by Better_Indication713 10 months ago

We should arrest any gun that pulls its own trigger at a school.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

You didn't say a smart thing like you think you did 👎

by Better_Indication713 10 months ago

🤣

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Can you provide examples of countries with strict gun laws where chlorine gas attacks commonly happen?

by Anonymous 10 months ago

No other tool is as easily accessible and as effectively at killing a large number of people as a family owned firearm. It's like saying "stabbings happen too, ban knives?!?!?!" Which is stupid because you can't kill 20 people in 2 minutes with a knife as easily as you can a firearm, hence the focus on firearms. No teenager who can't find a gun is going to pick up a knife instead. They use firearms because they are easy and not personal. People are tempted and more willing to do crimes if it's as simple as pulling a trigger with no care in the world or effort required. Take away the easiness and hassle free tool, watch school shooting plummet. Do you see school stabbings happening? Obviously not, and for a reason. No one else is to blame for a school shooting besides the parents and the shooter.

by jada16 10 months ago

Chlorine bleach ammonia packets.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

I grew up in a time when students could literally bring guns to school, at least in my area, for rifle shooting. I get it's a different time in terms of guns' technology/society and they are def part of the problem, but solely blaming it on guns is ignoring the other aspects (ie mental health, home life). This is coming from someone who has no guns

by Anonymous 10 months ago

gotta figure that aving 101 guns lying about for everyone to stumble onto doesn't help matters. Dramatically improving education will help, but that's a lot harder than introducing reasonable gun controls.

by Mundane_Plankton9305 10 months ago

Kids shouldnt be able to take a gun period!

by Anonymous 10 months ago

"just make everything better"

by Western-Instance8743 10 months ago

Wish I could but have to live within the real world. And in absence of parental involvement leaves it on teachers and the other adults in the kids lives.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Yes already been kicked once.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

It's the parents and only the parents always.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Yes parents working 14 hours to pay for the cost of living. Some due to poor life choices others due to no actual resources. So when are they going to be around to actually parent. Sorry we don't live in a world where the truth is the teachers spend more time with the kids then the actual parent even has the availability to.

by Anonymous 10 months ago

Unfortunately the teacher is the only one who is in a place to act particularly with those kids who parents have given up or never actually cared to begin with.

by Anonymous 10 months ago