Animals Do Not Belong In All Of The Spaces, amirite?

Pretty sure this is a popular opinion.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

My daughter just got her service dog after nearly 5 yrs waiting...,this is my biggest fear right now.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Just curious, how does a service dog become "ruined?"

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I would imagine it developed some sort of reactivity from dealing with unruly reactive dogs in its presence too much when it is trying to focus on its job.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

PTSD. Call it what it is.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Getting attacked by loose dogs. It may be too injured to work again, or it may be too fearful. Some can be retrained after an attack but some never feel safe again.

by yadirarau 1 month ago

Can I ask, how did your dog get ruined? Did it get attacked by another dog?

by TumbleweedThink 1 month ago

If it got attacked while working, the dog will become nervous and distracted in public. Service dogs need to be able to focus to do their job. If they become distracted whenever they see another dog due to trauma, it's dangerous. They might not alert to a seizure, sugar drop, etc. because they're distracted.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Aw that's sad. I hope their dog is okay atleast physically. What happens to a service dog like that after an event like an attack?

by TumbleweedThink 1 month ago

In her case, the dog was physically okay after being treated for bites. In terms of doing it's duties, she was still okay at home and around other animals she knows so the dog got to "retire" and stay with her owner and my friend integrated another service animal that goes out of the home with her. I'm not sure what happens in other situations, but at least in my friend's case the dog was okay. It's just such an awful thing to have happen because getting a trained service dog is hard and often expensive.

by Perfect-Flow 1 month ago

Yeah that's really sad and there should be more laws that protect service dog owners from people's dogs that attack them. I hope the dog can retire and stuff tho like your friends dog.

by TumbleweedThink 1 month ago

Is there no legal recourse? Surely the owner of the dog who attacked the service animal should legally be liable for their replacement.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It's not really the business's fault. If they ask a dog owner if it's a service animal, ask if it is trained to perform some specific tasks and the people say "Yes" there is nothing they can do about it. By law they have to allow service animals. I love dogs, but they don't need to go everywhere. However, if your dog is polite and not a nuisance I personally won't care or say anything to you.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The "there is nothing they can do about it part" is true and also frankly insane. The literal ADA website basically says "lmao anything can be a service dog and they don't actually need training or proof" which on the one hand I sort of get. On the other hand it makes it literally impossible to deal with people bringing whatever random animal around with them. Completely unhinged to create this special class of animal and then do literally nothing to meaningfully distinguish them from every other animal.

by New_Journalist_3138 1 month ago

You are allowed to ask these two questions: Is the dog a service animal required because of a disability? What work or task has the dog been trained to perform?

by Tough-Thing8102 1 month ago

And 99% of the answers are a lie. The ADA has not been updated to fix any of the problems and everybody is afraid of the rabid ADA trolls that go around suing for stupid technicalities.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I've used those questions in my business and they've never failed me.

by Tough-Thing8102 1 month ago

I can't believe there isn't some kind of official training and certification that can help businesses distinguish between trained service animals and "service" animals.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

cool, just know that you are running off customers with allergies, customers with small children, and employees who don't want to clean up dog crap/piss or break up dog fights.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

You're presumptuous. I own and operate my business, thanks. 90% of my customers adore my dog, and the other 10% don't care.

by Technical_Can3611 1 month ago

This is why people, including me, don't like dog owners. You're ask to practice basic hygiene and keep your dog under controlled but your response is to just be entitled. It's why I think people should be prohibited from owning dogs unless they have use for a trained service dog or it's necessary to their job.

by Just-Conclusion8362 1 month ago

You are incredibly presumptuous by insinuating that my dog is out of control 😂

by Technical_Can3611 1 month ago

If your dog is reactive: LEAVE IT AT HOME He will be there whether you like it or not, and if anyone has a problem with it, they can shop somewhere else. Right. Ok.

by Just-Conclusion8362 1 month ago

My dog isn't reactive, so not really sure what you're trying to say lmfao

by Technical_Can3611 1 month ago

Have you ever met a person who would describe their own dog as being poorly-trained or out of control?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yes, I have. My dog is well-behaved, is currently being trained, and is adjusting as well as any other Chihuahua mix. He stays in his crate 90% of the time and only makes noise when he needs to go outside, at which point I take him out to use the restroom. I'm not really sure why people are trying to make out a dog they've never interacted with to be some kind of demon. He is incredibly friendly, and multiple people, including those with small children, have come back and specifically asked to see him again. People are really clueless about this situation and chiming in like they have intimate knowledge 😭😂😭

by Technical_Can3611 1 month ago

exactly

by ramona60 1 month ago

My dog is definitely not petrified to be in human public spaces. Lowes is pet friendly and I take advantage of that 100%. It's her favorite time in the whole world.

by okovacek 1 month ago

This is common sense but the problem lies in dog owners. They're extremely entitled and don't care if their precious pet rips a chunk out of someone's leg.

by Just-Conclusion8362 1 month ago

Dogs shouldn't be in any establishments I agree, unless they're specifically pet stores or like a specific cafe for dogs, but outdoor public spaces are a different story.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Except service animals. Banning them is just like banning wheelchairs

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It is not illegal to ask

by walterlorenza 1 month ago

Two questions. Is this a service animal? What service does it provide?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

But the owner only has to answer those questions. They don't have to prove anything.

by kuhlmanadaline 1 month ago

Talk to your local representative if you don't like it

by walterlorenza 1 month ago

My daughter is asthmatic and extremely allergic so I agree. If they're not trained SERVICE (NOT emotional support) animals they need to stay home or outdoors.

by Kitchen_Orange 1 month ago

I'm sick of dog friendly restaurants. I'm starting to avoid them completely.

by Federal_Union 1 month ago

Tons of people agree with you

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yeah I have 3 I barely bring them grocery shopping 🤣🤣 too much

by Kitchen_Orange 1 month ago

Girl same 😂. Two I could manage but as soon as I had more kids than hands to hold them with, we switched to pickup to go 🤣

by Anonymous 1 month ago

As a parent of 3, I absolutely agree with you.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Honestly I don't understand why everyone has to take their animals places that are not meant for them. I might have a 'emotional support animal' but I don't take either of those dogs everywhere with me. They're for me at home. The kinds of folks who think that their pets are like people and deserve every experience they do annoy me even, and I used to carry one of my dogs on a little chest harness when she was smaller, she went into Walmart, that's it. That was maybe five or six times until she got too big and she fought it in the seven or eight years I've owned the dog.

by Agitated-Zucchini-33 1 month ago

Honestly I don't understand why everyone has to take their animals places that are not meant for them. Because it provides them with attention from people they would otherwise never receive. Entitlement, narcissism etc.

by Leather_Impress4661 1 month ago

Honestly I would be thrilled to see your pet tortoise.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

After 30 years of owning two dogs I have come to be of the same opinion. I'm done with animal fur in the house.

by Potential-Air-9129 1 month ago

I agree with this take. This just reminded me of the time a woman in the next table came in with her Siberian Husky.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Well, I have to disappoint you, but the grocery carts and baskets aren't clean in general. Many stores never clean them, .Former employees often admit this. Thousands of people kept it before you, coughed there. I recommend you not relying on hygiene in the stores, regardless of whether there are dogs there or not.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

So not all spaces, but what's your opinion on animals going to space?

by Feeling-Law-744 1 month ago

laika ☹️

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Sure, they shouldn't be allowed EVERYWHERE , but frankly, it's up to the business. If you don't want dogs around you in a pub that allows dogs, then don't go to that pub. There are plenty of places like restaurants and bars that don't allow dogs, and those are the ones suitable for you. Same goes for independent stores. It's up to the business who or what belongs there.

by Used-Worry7901 1 month ago

Yeah, where I live, Sweden, you can't take the dog anywhere almost, which is a huge hassle when you have a dog. My ex hade a beautiful dog, a Sheltie, super social, never bit anyone, very active breed. I'm going to the grocery store & it would be perfect to bring the dog, but it's impossible because there's no place that allows them here & no way in hell am I leaving the dog outside unattended. Very very seldom do I run into dogs in public spaces that can't behave, much more common with poorly disciplined kids. Best would be if the establishment decided, and hopefully that would lead to more dog friendly places here.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Left off the rest of the sentence. Smooth.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Literally anywhere else that isn't a restaurant or grocery store or the like? Outdoors in general is a great start.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Nice one mate

by kuhicmelvin 1 month ago

Humans are animals

by sanfordsmitham 1 month ago

Based on our own classification and naming conventions

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I'm an introvert and no other human around when I'm out in public either would be a dream come true 😂

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Good point! Ban them too!

by Ottilie03 1 month ago

Count yourself lucky! I saw self-absorbed people putting their dogs in carts when I was a cashier more than a handful of times each month

by Anonymous 1 month ago

restaurants, grocery stores They aren't unless they're service animals. other public spaces They aren't usually allowed Indoors anywhere unless they're service animals, unless you're talking about outdoor spaces?

by sigurd90 1 month ago

Depends on location. Where I live (European city) many restaurants and shops allow dogs, and dogs are well trained.

by Courtney02 1 month ago

In Vienna, you have to put a muzzle/cover on the dogs whenever you're taking them into public transport and some other public spaces. Frankly, my issue isn't with the dogs (although I am scared of them). It's more with responsible owners. If they're responsible, have at it. Bring your fur babies around

by Significant_Life774 1 month ago

Nah. Home improvement stores allow dogs. As do most discount shopping places like Marshall's, TJ Maxx, Ross, Burlington as long as the dog is in a bag or something. The only places that don't allow pet dogs are stores that have food and most government buildings like libraries.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Not a troll, just still annoyed about an experience I had last night. We were in a pizzeria and a lady had a Chihuahua under her arm and I was talking to my husband so I didn't notice and my toddler reached for the dog. Rather than ask or wait for us to react or respond, she leaned in close enough for my toddler to get licked by her random-ass dog right before we were about to eat. I was pissed and couldn't believe that 1, it even happened and 2, that people feel brazen enough to bring an animal to a sit down eatery.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I don't think service dogs should be exempt either.

by claudiemante 1 month ago

Respectfully, why not? If someone is blind I have no issue with their seeing eye dog 🤷‍♀️.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Its unfortunate, sure. But I think they should just get a human to help when it comes to places involving food. Service dogs and non service dogs butt-holes are the same regardless. Same with their balls. And same with the fact that they shed hair all over so easily. Some people are repulsed by it. And again, it's unfortunate for a person who needs help. And I'm all for them having help. But it's still ultimately their problem so help shouldn't come at the expense of others. And personally, I am allergic to dogs.

by claudiemante 1 month ago

I get not wanting animals in enclosed public spaces. I agree. But to say that someone with a legit service animal should have to pay a full-time 24/7 salary to a human that can be done by a dog is crazy. No one is going to take a job where they are only being paid 3 random hours a week to help old blind Dan to the restaurant. That's insanely impractical. And their buttholes and balls are on the floor, so unless you're eating restaurant food you're dropping on the floor (which is already wrapped on by people and full of germs), I think you'll be fine. Also: you're saying they can't have their service dog at a restaurant partly because you're allergic. So their disability is their problem and your disability is also their problem? Way to be a human man…

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Well said

by Wizacolten 1 month ago

lol, you go out in public and are upset when the public is there. Kids are part of humanity.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I'd rather see neither, and my youngest is 2. Personal, private shopping is where it's at.

by Anonymous 1 month ago