-38 People will call anything a 'cult' if they simply dont like it. amirite?

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

MAGA is now the world's largest active cult. And no, I don't like them and yes, it is indeed a cult

by Anonymous 5 days ago

Preach Brother or Sister!

by Anonymous 5 days ago

Its the blind following that makes it cult-like. Thats what its referenced to most of the time. It may not be an actual cult, but some people do things that make you question if it really isnt one

by Ednaabernathy 5 days ago

u cant place a religion of based door knocking bible followers who likely have proof to backup what they believe in with a group of 100 people who blindly follow their crazy leader who sacrifice every third baby and eat it. obviously the 'cult' example is madeup, but u get the point.

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

again, 5 more minutes of searching shows these days there are actually sometimes safer methods of medicine than what they dont like, i think blood transfusions? theres alternative medicines for those that can be safer

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

Nope, none of the blood alternatives that exist today work as well as blood does.

by GlassManagement 5 days ago

this is plain false

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

If it only takes 5 minutes, present the findings here.

by Anonymous 5 days ago

Your definition of cult is extremely narrow and not what literal governments say. Also they literally don't accept any blood donations. Jehovah's witnesses die because of their religious practices. They are discouraged from associating with non members. Former members get shunned. They hit all the definitions of cult. You seemingly have absolutely not clue what the JW are or do

by Anonymous 5 days ago

literally just take medicine that increases blood production, make plans with your doctor ect. former members get shunned due to the obvious: 'if he can break the rules so can i' and not associating with non members, i think they do, just not recreationally. The issue with ur argument is that theyre still trying to find alternatives while still following their bible, realistically a real 'cult' member would plainly die doing nothing to help themself.

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

You are wrong. The alternatives are worse than blood. And searching for alternatives doesn't make them less of a cult. Just because shunning makes sense from the cult pov doesn't make it less of a cult trait. For the love of humanity, go read a book, touch some grass or listen when adults explain things to you

by Anonymous 5 days ago

thats not from the cult pov, its from the outside pov.. if you were friends with a drug addict and they encouraged u to use, you would be influenced by them. same goes for why they shun people who break the rules lol, its a simple concept. in some cases the alternatives r less convinient or 'worse' but they work without dying.

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

They shun them because they want to limit contact with people outside of the cult. Because if they don't, people will be more likely to leave the cult. Except for the fact that alternatives to blood transfusions all have negative side effects. If they were just as good, medicine would be focused on them instead of blood transfusions that are always in more demand than there is supply

by Anonymous 5 days ago

1st sentence. correct minus the word cult. 2nd sentece. people get payed to donate blood, thats one of the reasons why its more focused on

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

hollup they have a website ill do some research that i could probably prove you wrong on

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

your completely right, ive been baited into argument gosh dang it

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

Lmao what in the world are you talking about

by Anonymous 5 days ago

???

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

"religion of based door knocking bible followers who likely have proof" you literally speak like someone who is in a cult

by Anonymous 5 days ago

wth does that mean

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

I don't think it's that they don't like it. I'm one of the people that calls Stanley Cup people a cult, and it only relates to specific crazies. I have a Stanley Cup, ONE, but there are people that will collect them to the point where they have a whole WALL of reusable tumblers costing over 4K just because it was popular on Tiktok. It's the blind following of a trend just because it is a trend that makes it a cult.

by Anonymous 5 days ago

i agree, but it shouldnt be called a cult, is there any other word for such?

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

No. The word is cult, and the definition is actually much broader. This is literally in the definition; "a person or thing that is popular or fashionable among a particular group or section of society. E.g. "the series has become a bit of a cult in the UK"

by Anonymous 5 days ago

It depends, trump supporters most of them yes, due to blindly following him, scientology also depends, some people may truly believe in it, some may blindly follow it

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

It doesn't matter if you blindly follow in it or truly believe. Its still a cult

by Anonymous 5 days ago

Going based of what I found on Google Beliefs that are considered deviant from societies norms - $800/hr auditing I would say qualifies as a deviant belief Sinister practices - Lots of footage in documentaries of ex-scientologists being followed and harassed. Testimonies from ex-scientologists. Probably the tip of the iceberg really. Charismatic Leader - Tom Cruise. If you don't know or don't follow scientology and think that Tom Cruise is just casually associated with Scientology or that he's just a member. Not quite. Authoritarian and secretive - oh yeah. Most definitely. The actual technical leader has or had a wife. No one has been able to confirm her whereabouts or pulse for what must be several years at this point. (Just googled it - Shelly Miscavige has been missing since 2007! and as of September 2024, is believed to be being held against her will. Oh, religion) There's two more bullet points but you get the picture

by Anonymous 5 days ago

if this is true then yeah, i get the picture now

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

Or people call people like that culties because their sheep and have the cult mentality....

by Anonymous 5 days ago

So by definition every religion is a cult. a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. I'd even argue cults aren't necessarily bad. It's gives people support systems and community. The problems arise when you start only having the cult. When they start cutting you off from friends, family and outside members. JW and Mormons are good examples of this. Someone leaves they are excommunicated, no one in the cult can speak to, work with the excommunicated.

by Queasy-Dream4834 5 days ago

did some research into the mormon banishing thing, pretty sure thats literally just an example of: leave one mouldy apple in, the rest will turn mouldy 'if this dude can break the rules and not get 'punished' so can i' type of thing yk? it may be cruel but its pretty logical

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

It's also cult behavior…. Also depending on the church, drinking coffee is enough to get you excommunicated

by Queasy-Dream4834 5 days ago

lmao mormons banish coffee drinkers? not nearly as bad as jws in that case

by Koelpinriley 5 days ago

I would define a cult as a group of people who idolise their leadership to the point where they would follow them regardless of the contradictions of their declarations. And yes, I would count many Trump fans as that, because clearly what he says doesn't matter. If he said abortion up to 9 months was ok the religious right would say "sure, if Trump thinks it, it's fine." The words are irrelevant, it's all vibes.

by meaganmuller 4 days ago

scientology isnt a cult since it isnt dangerous, it is if you MAKE it dangerous and BLINDLY follow it. JWs all they do is follow their bible to the T which isnt dangerous, most of them dont blindly follow it either, ofc it would be dangerous if u MADE it dangerous and blindly followed it. A cult is a religion based on lies usually made by a crazy person, gaslighting its followers into following it with 0 proof to concept, as well as the stereotypical sacrifices and self-harm. None of which i or you have mentioned are cults.

by Koelpinriley 4 days ago

i agree with the trump fans thing

by Koelpinriley 4 days ago

I think it's more than ok to agree Trump may have some points objectively. But to be such a die hard believer his word is gospel without even questioning it? That I cannot get behind.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Are you familiar with QAnon?

by Anonymous 4 days ago

I've heard of it. Not a fan of any extremist political groups, no matter the affiliation or "side" as it were. There are some on the far left that are just as dangerous and dotty as those on the far right.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

no... you know, first of all, religions ARE cults, what describes a religion and what describes a cult coincide, second, also stanley cups are a cult, yes, cos people don't buy those for utility, they buy those cos it's a trend and they have herd mentality, a cult, you don't need to believe in the paranormal to be in a cult

by Anonymous 4 days ago

cults are dangerous and blind following 'religions' the religions i mentioned, are not

by Koelpinriley 4 days ago

You think witch burnings, the inquisition and the crusades weren't "dangerous"?

by Anonymous 4 days ago

yessir in the 1800s when blind worship was common, not in this day and age

by Koelpinriley 4 days ago

So Islam by your definition is a cult because Islamic Terrorism exists and it's dangerous?

by Anonymous 4 days ago

no, because the terrorist group is taking their religion, and taking it out of proportion at the same time going against their own beliefs.

by Koelpinriley 4 days ago

So your logic is that everyone in a religion that is behaving like a cult is not part of the religion anymore because they are behaving like a cult? Did it ever cross your mind that religions encourage people to cultist behavior?

by Anonymous 4 days ago

no my logic is that some people take their own religion out of proportion inadvertently going against their own idiology

by Koelpinriley 4 days ago

Do you think Christians are not dangerous to other people today?

by GlassManagement 4 days ago

doesnt that entirely depend on the person wth u mean

by Koelpinriley 4 days ago

I mean Christianity is dangerous to quite a lot of people today, I really don't understand which part was unclear.

by GlassManagement 4 days ago

could u elaborate? ofc religions supporting wars is horrible but other than that?

by Koelpinriley 4 days ago

Supporting wars, ethnic discrimination, supporting laws against gay people, opposing birth control and STD prevention etc. etc.

by GlassManagement 4 days ago

idk abt the others but pretty sure it says in the bible to literally not be gay, depends if u are or arent in the religion tho

by Koelpinriley 4 days ago

i'm anti-theist, i DO believe that religions are dangerous and stuff.... to put it simple

by Anonymous 4 days ago

May I ask who are they following in a non-blind way? Or are they not following anyone?

by Either-Studio 4 days ago

wdym who? to not follow someone or something in a blind way u need proof

by Koelpinriley 4 days ago

I would say that following a person (or entity) unwaiveringly through "faith" is following someone blindly, making that description accurate to many religions too. I didn't need proof persay, but you were making claims that religious people dont follow people (or a god) blindly, when I really think they do.

by Either-Studio 4 days ago

My ex-wife called her daughter and me cult members. We were martial artists.

by keyonmills 4 days ago

I think I heardt that it‘s hard to find an airtight definition for what a cult is.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

You sound really motivated to not have the thing you like being called a cult. Having said that, a lot of words are overused or used out of context so it's no big deal. Why so serious?

by Oharajerel 4 days ago

Jehova witnesses are a cult. They don't let their daughters go to college, and you're only allowed to date within your religion. What else do you need?

by StrongStick 4 days ago

The daughter college thing is completely false, takes 5 mins of online searching to find nothing on that, also dating within ur own religion isnt really cultist, it makes for an easier family life in general, specifically for worship. A christian marrying a muslim wouldnt make for a peaceful family, atleast on paper.

by Koelpinriley 4 days ago

ok cultist

by StrongStick 4 days ago

LMAo

by Koelpinriley 4 days ago

This isn't unpopular, it's just objectively incorrect

by Anonymous 4 days ago

elborate????

by Koelpinriley 4 days ago

Define rational.

by Straight-Bobcat-389 4 days ago

The big missing part of "rational" though is to debate something, the other person puts forward valid points that you can't rebuke, you agree they are right & you change your opinion. That NEVER happens these days & that would be truly rational.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

It's more than ok to know your own mind and be willing to have conviction in what you believe to be correct and true. Anything less would be intellectually dishonest - no matter who doesn't like it.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Oh okay well not me then.

by Straight-Bobcat-389 4 days ago

Silly me lol 😂

by Anonymous 4 days ago

That's ok. They're just words. Only we can define who we truly are. Chances are they'd not come say it to your face - so no point getting upset over it.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Further proves my point. How dare I have my own rationale, morals and principles!

by Anonymous 4 days ago

I've been told as a metalhead that metal music is cultlike

by Dibbertgreta 4 days ago

Here is the definition of a cult "a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object." I would say most religions for that definition, so Christianity is a cult. But I agree with the rest

by vemard 4 days ago

Mmmmm kool aid

by Anonymous 4 days ago

I am very much anti-flatearthers, but I wouldn't call flatearthers cultists. In my opinion Maga is a cult for sure

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Historically the term has been used to refer to pretty much any organised belief system or gathering around any sort of shared narrative or ideology. So yes they can all be called cults.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

By definition religion is a ‘cult', however, not all cults are religious. And while the word ‘cult' has definitely become hyperbolic, Stanley cups are hardly a worthy comparison.

by Dillanjacobs 4 days ago

i used that as a random example as what people will call cults if they dont like it. also id say, not all religions are cults.

by Koelpinriley 4 days ago

also id say, not all religions are cults. That goes without saying.

by Dillanjacobs 4 days ago