School Uniforms need to be far more common for High School, amirite?

The purpose of Schools is to prepare children for adulthood. Allowing pajamas and sweats does not accomplish this. I see adults in pajamas or sweats all of the time.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Donald ducking it. Nice.

by Alanis45 4 days ago

Winnie the Pooing it!'

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Wfh life >

by Anonymous 4 days ago

I live in Arizona and work remote. Other than a wedding, Since March of 2020 I didn't think I have l wore anything outside basketball short and sweat pants .

by Appropriate-Leg3669 4 days ago

I wfh.... what else would I be wearing? A blazer????

by Pearline96 4 days ago

A gown.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

The one office job I've ever had was casual wear and everyone was super happy. Sweatpants all over the place.

by Kemmeremerson 4 days ago

A lot of my coworkers still wear scrubs when they're working off-clinics because they're basically just socially acceptable pajamas.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

I love the notion that the type and format of the cloth you use to cover your body can somehow affect your productivity levels. Actually...scratch that. It can! The more comfortable people are, the more productive they can be.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Personally, I don't take grown adults who spend their entire day in pajamas very seriously. So I actually do notice an increase in productivity in myself when I put on jeans and a sweatshirt, sort of a reflection of how I view myself I guess.

by FeistyRabbit 4 days ago

But that has nothing to do with the clothing and everything to do with what you were taught and the lifelong habits you have. If you hadn't been taught that sweats = laziness, then you wouldn't associate them with non-productivity.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

I literally haven't worn a bra since 2020 and if I can I'll wear sweatpants to work too. It doesn't affect my work quality at all

by Complex_Squash_9286 4 days ago

puts on sweats and a hoodie to go to a doctors appointment

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Maybe more blessed than others, but I've been wearing shorts, joggers, and sweatpants to work for like 10 years.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

And Whataburger.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

How is that an excuse? They need to tighten up too

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Why?

by Anonymous 4 days ago

And they look like they've given up.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

So someone who weats wears and pajamas cant just wear jeans to work one day? Lmfao what a dumb opinion. Its your job to make sure your child is prepared for life not the schools. Schools job is to teach and babysit kids while parents work

by Anonymous 4 days ago

You were that kid that reminded the teacher they didn't assign homework, didn't you?

by Anonymous 4 days ago

The purpose of Schools is to prepare children for adulthood Nope. The purpose of school is to educate kids. It's a parent's job to prepare your kids for adulthood.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

School has multiple purposes. One of them is to educate children. Another is to prepare children for adulthood. And there are even more! Like socialization and teaching kids how to get along with lots of different types of people. As an educator, I see where OP is coming from. One of the things kids should learn at school is how to succeed in different environments, and that includes learning how to dress appropriately. But I think for the day-to-day experience of just going to school, sweatpants are fine and don't cause any issues. There are pros and cons to uniforms for sure. But uniforms certainly don't solve everything.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

But yeah, this is definitely an Opinion that someone who Randomly capitalizes random Words would have.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

My phone recognizes if I have capitalized words frequently before (at the start of sentences, in lists, in book or movie titles) and capitalizes them automatically in inappropriate contexts!

by Anonymous 4 days ago

What kind of phone do you have? It shouldn't be picking up on words being capitalized at the start of sentences or in lists as an "all the time" thing. You shouldn't even have to manually do that, anyway

by Anonymous 4 days ago

We'll, that's ducking stupid.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Just ship the kids to boarding schools in Asian countries. They are mostly affordable, and will teach kids uniform, discipline, hardwork, respect. Maybe not confidence

by nigelstokes 4 days ago

This is the most popular opinion of anyone old. How old? Wait til you find what The Kids These Days are wearing and get mad. OP is a basic.

by Willing_Volume8504 4 days ago

Yeah, because that's a source of distraction and disciplinary problems - kids wearing clothes that differ from what other kids are wearing.

by Lowetroy 4 days ago

it's a source of problems maybe not in that sense but because kinds compare what clothes they have and make fun of others etc

by Anonymous 4 days ago

All people suck - adults and kids. Even if kids were forced into uniforms at schools, they would still find a reason to mock other kids - pants have faded to a different colour, a bleach stain, a mended shirt, wrinkled shirts, etc Imo it's better to allow kids to wear what they want so that they will take pride/ownership of their appearance.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

thats still definitely a factor with uniforms. kids will make fun of eachother no matter what, they'll just go find some other thing to make fun off. for example from my own experience, my glasses, the fact i was a little on the heavy side and that i was shy. i wont say that uniforms dont have advantages, they definitely do, but "it prevents bullying" is simply not the case.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Eh, dress codes are a fading part of society. I work for a F500 med device company in cybersecurity and my boss wears jeans and a sweatshirt with the school district her kids go to the office every day. Most people here wear jeans/khakis and hoodies/polos. I am currently wearing pajama pants and a white T while working from home. Now keeping said pajama pants clean and in good condition to not be dirty or smell is a different story. Cleanliness is much more important to learn than arbitrary dress codes.

by Ok-Corner 4 days ago

i wear pajama pants every day. i have like 5 pairs. i should get some more

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Uniforms and discipline are a myth

by Dear-Swordfish-4775 4 days ago

I'm not gonna lie, as a kid I preferred having uniforms though I didn't really know why. As an adult I recognised it made sure that the rich kids and the not so rich kids didn't have clothing to distinguish themselves. It made it easier to mix with other people. There was no pressure to dress in a certain style and face judgement for not dressing in an accepted way from other kids. I agree it had nothing to do with discipline.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

honestly i never felt pressure to dress in a certain style when i was in school

by Anonymous 4 days ago

So is the answer to that to make everyone the same?

by Anonymous 4 days ago

I've never had cancer, so its clearly a hoax...

by Anonymous 4 days ago

The idea that school uniforms equalizes things for kids isn't reality though. I had to wear a uniform to high school and while everyone was wearing the same jacket and pants, there were definitely some kids that had basic cheap dress shoes and others that had Doc Martens. Or kids that had basic department store white dress shirts and others that had like Ralph Lauren shirts with the little logo on the pocket.

by kylerhaag 4 days ago

As an adult, I go to my full time job in sweatpants everyday 😬

by Mervin43 4 days ago

Same here!

by Anonymous 4 days ago

What do you do?

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Lol as a HS teacher absolutely not. My wife makes 6 figures & she wears sweats half the time. Also who would hypothetically pay for these uniforms?

by Nedrunolfsdotti 4 days ago

My hometown city has uniforms. They're not expensive, just polo shirts and khaki pants. Parents pay for them. Generally they don't buy as many "normal" clothes as parents whose schools don't have uniforms, so it actually saves a little money. There's also financial aid for parents who absolutely cannot afford them.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

How is the uniform complicated? You have two sets of clothes that are exactly identical. You put them on at the beginning of the day and then you take them off and hang them somewhere breezy at the end of it. Rinse and repeat Monday through friday.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

School uniforms are definitely less complicated than casual wear lol

by alex23 4 days ago

For who??? The kids stress to be presentable. The parents stress on where to find extra money. What is less complicated other then "now they all look alike"???

by Anonymous 4 days ago

You can usually only buy uniform in the summer break so rich kids won't be buying them every few months

by Anonymous 4 days ago

That literally doesn't work lol, kids of that age will just find something else to bully someone over

by Anonymous 4 days ago

I didn't say it would end bullying, I said it was one less thing.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Everyone I know who went to private school says that having a uniform makes things less complicated, not more. No deciding what to wear, no comparing yourself unfavorably to your peers on the basis of clothes. Not sure how having your outfit chosen for your would make things more complicated

by Advanced_Bluebird 4 days ago

Being a teenager is the most complicated age to be alive for a human. Honestly how??

by No_Difficulty_5305 4 days ago

The raging hormones, the changing place in the world, the looming specter of adulthood etc

by Anonymous 4 days ago

I don't see how any of that is remotely comparable to the complications of raising children and providing for your family

by No_Difficulty_5305 4 days ago

Adults get abused too. And poverty weighs on adults far more than children. But think about what your struggles were as a child. My biggest struggles were balancing sports practice vs. homework, how to talk to the girl I like, and how to buy booze. Now I have to place my family's priorities above my own, constantly ensure our shelter won't get foreclosed on and we won't literally starve, focus on avoiding deadly health issues (and how I'll pay for my childrens' health issues), etc.

by No_Difficulty_5305 4 days ago

Have you ever been to a college campus?

by Anonymous 4 days ago

This is not unpopular among educators and parents. If nothing else, uniforms simplify students and parents lives and let them focus their time and spend their money on other things

by Anonymous 4 days ago

No. All uniforms do is make parents think that the kids are getting a better education than they are. It's psychological. There's a reason why kids at private school wear uniforms. The parents want to think that they are getting their money's worth. I went to schools with and without uniforms. All the uniforms did was make me feel uncomfortable at school and learn less than I otherwise could have.

by Flashy_Variation_224 4 days ago

Currently reading this from my home office during work hours while decked out in sweats

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Yep that's me, I would go to school in basically pyjamas. But when you're sitting on an very uncomfortable plastic chair all day, you bet I want to dress comfortably. I don't see how my pyjama pants with stars on them made me less serious. I was actually one of the few kids who would spend almost every lunch in teachers' classrooms to study and be explained the things I didn't get. Now that I'm college and have those chairs again, yeah I've been doing it again. I hate just shivering on an uncomfortable chair for hours

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Nurses wear pajamas (scrubs)

by elysepfeffer 4 days ago

And crocs

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Not a concern at all in Australia

by Evening-Block 4 days ago

A lot of my coworkers come into their pyjama's and sweatpants, and no one bats an eye

by ImplementNo4085 4 days ago

I will agree with school uniforms as soon as I start getting paid for school. And there will always be distractions and discipline problems. And uniforms are dumb since they aren't worn in college. Stupid to make them wear it for 4 years, and them most will never wear one again.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Did you even go to school? Lmao

by Anonymous 4 days ago

A school's job is to educate. A parent's job is to prepare for life. Be mad at society for suffering through a pandemic and realizing that comfortable clothing and being comfortable is more important than someone else being pleased with how I look. Also, was it pajama day? And have you ever seen a college? Pajamas all day, baby.

by PossessionExpert3674 4 days ago

Be mad at society for suffering through a pandemic and realizing that comfortable clothing and being comfortable is more important than someone else being pleased with how I look. i didn't realize that in 2020. i realized it in 2015

by Anonymous 4 days ago

This isn't really an unpopular opinion, although the reasoning behind it is certainly not the standard one. A lot of people are in favor of school uniforms because it mitigates some issues in terms of different socioeconomic classes. Everyone wears the same thing. Mike won't be jealous of Steve's hip designer jeans. Katie won't bully Susan for having holes in their clothes. The public schools in my hometown have implemented dress codes for this reason. People who need financial help for the clothes are able to get it, but they're not expensive, basically polo shirts and khakis. Also, the point of school isn't really to prepare kids for adulthood. If that were true, they would be taking classes on personal finance and budgeting, how to fix a flat tire, how to clean your house, etc. The point is learning and socialization. To equip kids with a baseline level of knowledge for them to start their adult lives with. Many people would say to let them wear what they want because this is a time of their lives where they can, they'll have plenty of years where they need to worry about dress codes later. Besides, a seminar on how to dress appropriately for different situations and dress codes is enough to get the point across. That's what my high school did and, as far as I know, everyone was able to dress appropriately for their college and/or job interviews. I will say no one wore pajamas or sweatsuits in public when I was a student, but times are different and more casual now. No use being all "get off my lawn!" about it.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Oh yeah, forcing the students to wear something they don't want to can only IMPROVE discipline...

by Anonymous 4 days ago

"I was picking my Daughter up from School. And the majority of Students were in pajamas and sweats." The oldest guy at my workplace is well into his 60s, and he wears pajamas all the time. "The purpose of Schools is to prepare children for adulthood." Lol, I hate to break it to you, but most adults are just large children. "I also believe that if uniforms are implemented other distractions and disciplinary problems would start to improve." There's not much evidence that school uniforms foster a sense of belonging or discipline.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

What about the fact most jobs don't require a uniform? How does having one in childhood prepare you for adulthood in that case? Incidentally there is no correlation between kids having a school uniform and improved discipline.

by Baileyalexandra 4 days ago

Most jobs where I live come with a full uniform. I don't think I'd even work for a place that didn't provide uniform and full PPE

by Anonymous 4 days ago

especially for students with sensory issues THIS!!!! Thank you so much for mentioning this!

by Anonymous 4 days ago

100%

by Acrobatic_Bath 4 days ago

This sounds like a problem with implementation in your country, not with the concept itself. The uniforms my niblings wear are very comfortable. They're just cotton polo shirts and khaki shorts, pants, or skirts (whichever they feel like wearing, non-gender specific). Of course allowances are made for kids with allergies or sensory issues.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

When they get a job they'll get a dress code there Simple

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Who will pay for these uniforms?

by Nedracollins 4 days ago

Buying two uniforms for use each year is way cheaper than buying a variety of clothes to choose between each day. In high school I had four polos, two shorts, and a pair of pants. It's all I needed for four years. It really cut back on costs to have durable and clean clothes I could just alternate between.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

The same ppl who pay for their pajamas and sweatshirts.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

My unpopular opinion is that we need to scarp the idea of adulthood altogether.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Uniforms don't prepare you to dress everyday, which is a skill. A dress code is the way to go.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

I don't think an asshole kid that constantly causes problems is going to put a uniform on and suddenly become ok. Saying uniforms will fix disciplinary problems makes no sense.

by Mountain_Dog 4 days ago

The purpose of school is provide children with an education. Let kids be kids. Unless you and your taxes want to pay for all the uniforms.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

If you think highschools are preparing kids for adulthood you're gonna in for a massive shock. Also I went to a public (non uniform wearing school) but I had mad friends that went to the Catholic School that wore uniforms n those kids acted just the same as everyone else. Only difference was they were forced into wearing those lil skirts

by Anonymous 3 days ago

How hard can it be to have teenagers not wear bikinis or be naked come on. Maybe relax on hats and other stupid things But really? Like is it really that big of an issue or do boomers have too much time?

by Anonymous 3 days ago

It sounds like a boomer opinion but OP said they were picking up their daughter from school, so unless they had a kid in their 60's, they're probably late Gen X or younger.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

People wear sweatpants to my job - all the time.

by Ckub 3 days ago

no they don't Allowing pajamas and sweats does not accomplish this. why do you care about people wearing pajamas? it doesn't affect you I also believe that if uniforms are implemented other distractions and disciplinary problems would start to improve. wrong. so so wrong

by Anonymous 3 days ago

You can have casual clothes be part of a uniform in school just the same as you can in the workplace.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

actually i wear long pants in summer. they're just thin, breathable, soft, and stretchy

by Anonymous 3 days ago

I went to a school with uniforms from kindergarten through fourth grade. It was great. I didn't need as many clothes, getting ready was faster, and I was always comfortable.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Not the purpose of school

by Anonymous 3 days ago

how does wearing pajamas mean someone doesn't have self respect? i'd say it shows i have enough self respect to not go along with arbitrary made-up clothing rules

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Yeah i don't think someone is that dumb to wear pajamas to an interview or any scene of that sort...

by Nonadibbert 3 days ago

I work as a software engineer, most days I work from home wearing sweatpants. On days I go into the office it's jeans and a hoodie.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

A school's job is to teach information. Your job as parent is to get them ready for life. No wonder you are so upset at pajamas since you cant be asked to do your job.

by Informal-String 3 days ago

I think uniforms are good but to act like it prepares you for adult hood is a joke

by Anonymous 3 days ago

You can think that, but you'd be wrong, just comparing schools that currently do and don't enforce uniforms.

by Bitter_Diet 3 days ago

Send you daughter to private school and she will have a uniform

by Anonymous 3 days ago

I agree with school uniforms for the benefit of poor people (meaning no money) in the 1980s my step dad went from door to door selling life insurance. Bad year, very little cash. My step mom bought my clothes at kmart (rude and ugly aesthetic) and jc penney (maybe one degree better). I was embarrassed and jealous of the kids who actually had nice clothing. To have that kind of stress and anxiety in 7th grade is a disadvantage and it could derail a student's whole career. Poor quality clothing is uncomfortable to wear. I can imagine that that sort of "fashion" makes well-meaning kids into trolls or even derelicts. The resulting rejection by other students is the threshold to senile demented behavior.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

People forget, but school uniform also ensures all students look the same and aims to obscure any disparities in wealth. In theory, the students from poorer backgrounds dress no different from those from wealthy backgrounds.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

I'd prefer uniforms as long as they aren't annoying. Nothing wrong with just some basic polos/long sleeves and pants/skirts regardless of gender. As long as they aren't stupid expensive or if they are free. I would have loved not having to worry about what I was wearing but also being able to have my own accessories. My parents would have probably liked it too. Less clothes to buy or wash. The problem is usually the expense and kids who are really into particular niches of clothes that they want all their friends to see. But I guess you could argue they could change and wear whatever they want later. Idk.

by Remote_Market 3 days ago

Your own opinion is working against itself. The thing about adulthood is you have the option to wear whatever you want. So, to get ready for that, they need the same options and learn to make good choices. If you don't allow them choice, there is nothing learned. They are not learning anything for when they become adults. Teens must be allowed to make mistakes in order to learn from them.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Not the purpose. The purpose is so kids don't show up with LV bags, and exclusive Jordan's no one can get so it makes an even playing field. I was told this by a Superintendent at a part in L.A. decades ago who ran the biggest district in America (or very close).

by Frederic47 3 days ago

I see your point, but also I don't think that controlling how someone dresses is not good for society as a whole.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

I refuse to work anywhere requiring a uniform, that's how serious it is so do i honestly

by Anonymous 3 days ago

I think that there are good arguments for school uniforms, but this isn't one of them

by Anonymous 3 days ago

I don't think school uniforms should be used but people should not be coming to school with pajamas and a blanket. Other than that, they should be able to wear whatever they want as long as it's appropriate

by Anonymous 3 days ago

I actually liked having a uniform during my high school years. Made mornings so much easier as I didn't have to think about what I was going to wear and civies day (days you could wear normal clothing) that much more interesting.

by bertrandward 3 days ago

I let my 17yo daughter dress all kinds of ways to express herself but the one thing we will butt heads about is those damned pajama pants at school.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

FWIW looking "fancy" isn't the only purpose for school uniforms. It also levels the socioeconomic playing field in terms of wearing "cool" clothes. Kids have no control over how much money their parents make, and what kind of clothes they can afford. Many places, not just schools, use dress codes to limit/discourage people from flaunting wealth. The dress code for a kid's school doesn't even have to be upscale. It could be Converse All Stars, Hanes white tees, and Levi's blue jeans.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Schools are glorified day cares so you can keep working.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

I think uniforms would be great. Make getting ready so much easier. Except as a lover of comfy clothes I would make the uniforms sweat pants and sweat shirts so they could be cozy all day. I seriously hate the feeling of stiff structured clothes.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Nah. If the school has to pay for it, it's a waste of money compared to putting it into teacher's wages just as one example. If people have to pay for it, it's an unfair burden on those who can't afford it or can't access the shop.

by Mother_Affect 3 days ago

I feel like sweat pants are fine - they are basically athletic clothing that's been adopted as lounge/sleepwear. Straight up pajamas I can see being an issue in some circumstances but not enough to force uniforms. I think a little bit of freedom is an acceptable trade off given that we are expecting teens attend what is essentially a full time job with no pay or benefits. I'm also of the opinion that the idea of "you have to dress professionally" is an outdated BS mentality. If you want me to dress a certain way, then you can provide all of my clothing without impacting my pay. I can understand asking employees to wear clean clothes without holes or damage to the clothing, and not having rude designs or words on the clothing, but this idea that all jobs should require a uniform or a collared shirt/tie is outdated. It's also my opinion that uniforms is discriminatory against families that are struggling financially. You might think "it's all uniform, so it's all the same", but clothes will fade/wear differently based on how it's worn or cared for, and it's almost guaranteed that the "poor" kid's clothes are going to look worse than the "rich" kids.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Can someone, please, explain me like i'm 5, how is it more financially burdening for the parents if the kids have uniforms? You get 2-4 sets of clothes (2-3 full length pants, 1-2 sport shorts, 1-2 skirts/dresses, 3-4 t-shirts, 3-4 dress shirts, a vest/suit jacket, 1-2 pairs of dress shoes and 1-2 pairs of sport shoes), that you go though each day. Instead of buying trendy, costly, poor quality fast fashion. Uniforms are made to be affordable, and usually at least 1 set is provided by the school. How does this make sense? We don't bat an eye when teenagers have 1000+ usd phones, those are important, but god forbit the parents are held accountable to how their kids dress and behave.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Have you been to an American college? They obviously don't have any students wearing sweats and pajamas.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

I work remote. I'm on zoom calls with C-suite stakeholders or clients who's business is worth millions to my employer. I do not wear pants. I haven't worn professional pants since my last in-person client meeting. #TeamGymShorts

by Any-Error 3 days ago

Too many people worried about what everyone else is doing/wearing/etc. when there's this crazy thing called minding your own business. If you don't wanna wear sweatpants and pajamas in public don't but trying to force your perspective on everyone else is weird at best

by IndividualSalt 3 days ago

I also believe that if uniforms are implemented other distractions and disciplinary problems would start to improve. Yeah, that's been disproven by school systems with school uniforms.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

I wear pajamas a sweats pretty much every day. I taught programming classes in pajamas and sweats. I make about 200k a year in pajamas and sweats. I signed the paperwork for my second house in pajamas and sweats. Looks like they're ready for adulthood from my perspective.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Send your kid to a private school then. Pyjamas and sweats are common and completely normal. Why do you care so much what kids wear?

by Carmel22 3 days ago

Or you could mind your own business.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Dress doesn't matter. I'm a successful adult. I wear random shorts and a T shirt 99% of the time.

by giovanna98 3 days ago

Interestingly, uniform is such a common thing in most countries outside of the Western countries. There are many reasons to it. First, improve security since staff can tell right away if there are outsider trying to sneak in for whatever reasons. That's why even when it's a school trip, students still have to wear their uniforms instead of normal clothing. Second, increase sense of community and responsibility for students since they have to wear a small name tag on their uniforms indicating their school, class and name. If they misbehave in their uniforms, they will get reported. Third, probably to increase revenue for the schools itself as students have to buy from them.

by Aware-Initial 3 days ago

Personally, I wouldn't mind. I'm not very fashion conscious and when I did have a uniform when I was younger it really took the stress out from deciding what to wear.

by rippinadolf 3 days ago

I disagree with the idea of uniformity in general. Im very much an individualist and believe everyone should be encouraged to represent their own ideals i stead of forci g homogeony on everyone

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Flashback to my catholic school days.

by Main-Newspaper8831 3 days ago

It's not really about uniform, it's about dress code. Pajamas have no place in a educational setting. You can have pajama days, but not all year round, that's chaos.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

In Australia school uniforms are standard, honestly would've hated no uniform You have to think of something to wear everyday and I'm sure it would open so many more avenues for status and bullying

by DustRight5323 3 days ago