Let's use speeding for an example. There's no victim... this time.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

So drunk drivers should just be let alone until they kill someone?

by Aishapfeffer 1 day ago

The definition of "victim" would then get litigated to oblivion. No thanks. Doing this would also lead to rises in actual crimes because the threshold on punishment would be much lower.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

There is always a victim, no matter what.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Lots of cases where this just doesn't work. Attempted murder no longer a crime. No harm no foul. "Consensual" sex with a minor. Who's to say there's a victim Speeding/DUI/all workplace safety rules. Engaging in risky behaviors that put others at risk is fine until you actually kill someone.

by Anonymous 1 day ago