Making all American Football players, from NFL to peewee, play flag football instead of tackle removes nothing from the game. amirite?

'I don't watch football. Here's all the different ways you should change it' Thanks for the uninformed input!

by Specialist-Poet8091 13 hours ago

The fact you have no counter argument is telling

by DifficultyTrue 13 hours ago

I have plenty of counter arguments. What I don't have is the patience to debate someone who admits they don't know what they're talking about.

by Specialist-Poet8091 13 hours ago

I don't watch basketball, baseball, or soccer either, but none of those sports incentivize violent contact and all have the same if not wider audiences. Maybe make a valid argument next time.

by PreviousAmphibian 12 hours ago

I did. You don't know what you're talking about, so your opinion carries very little weight. Cogent.

by Specialist-Poet8091 12 hours ago

Again, you still haven't provided a contrary argument, just attacked. Maybe that's why you like the violence.

by PreviousAmphibian 12 hours ago

I would have to explain too many things to you (like the word 'tackle') to have a meaningful conversation. And, like...life's too short, man.

by Specialist-Poet8091 11 hours ago

Not short enough to keep replying apparently

by PreviousAmphibian 11 hours ago

I don't watch basketball, baseball, or soccer either, but none of those sports incentivize violent contact and all have the same if not wider audiences. It's almost like they're completely different sports and people expect different levels of physicality.

by Patient_Working_1851 11 hours ago

Flag football would make the NFL and college football unwatchable. Period.

by Anonymous 11 hours ago

No hate, genuinely curious as to the logic then. People watch other no contact sports just fine? It's not like Tennis would have more of an audience if they could throw the rackets at each other.

by PreviousAmphibian 11 hours ago

Wanna bet? People would line up to watch combat tennis

by Anonymous 10 hours ago

I mean, combat juggling is a thing. Not a huge audience but yeah

by PreviousAmphibian 10 hours ago

Ok, I'm intrigued

by Anonymous 10 hours ago

Worth a google. Basically it's two people juggling bowling pins and swiping at the other guy to try and make them miss.

by PreviousAmphibian 10 hours ago

No further explanation? I wonder why. could it be because you are wrong? 🤔

by DifficultyTrue 9 hours ago

Enjoy your bubble wrap

by Anonymous 9 hours ago

First of all, bubble wrap is fun, second, I'd be okay being tackled if I had decent padding. Then maybe I could get up and make another go at it instead of having a shattered shoulder and ringing head.

by PreviousAmphibian 9 hours ago

It goes beyond that. In the last 5-10 years, a company (whose name slips my mind rn) developed helmets that protect better than the extra layer of padding and they have helmets designed for each position group and each players head specifically. For each position group they add in certain extra resistance levels and padding in the areas where that player would be hit more often and the specific fits for each player greatly assist in reducing head trauma. They're up to 30% more effective than the extra padding cap on your typical helmet

by Anonymous 9 hours ago

Good to know. this is the kind of input I was looking for.

by PreviousAmphibian 8 hours ago

The thing is, heads bounce off the ground during tackles, defensive players tackle with their shoulders and make incidental contact with their heads (and to the other players' heads). Linemen bump helmets every play, and they say the "mini" concussions are the real problematic ones. A decade or so ago there was a big push into rugby-style tackling (low, around the waist and legs), but the fact of the matter is rugby players may have the highest incidences of concussions and cte. I don't believe there's any realistic way to keep the sport's thrill and make it much safer

by Anonymous 8 hours ago

A fair argument. I think the point a lot of folks are making is that these folks technically know what they're getting into. I just wonder how can we make the game safer without people saying it would "ruin the game." There's something I remember from a documentary about how decades ago they "allowed the forward pass" and people were saying the same thing that it would ruin the game, which goes strong to this day. And don't get me started on those old leather helmets.

by PreviousAmphibian 8 hours ago

The quarterback would never get sacked, and watching people get absolutely obliterated from a tackle is fun. There's a reason that people make compilations of the hardest hits. Because it's fun to watch

by Anonymous 8 hours ago

Nothing unethical about people willingly sacrificing their health for the entertainment of others. Key word is willingly

by Anonymous 8 hours ago

Then when they get CTE or dementia and start attacking their wives they don't get to cry when they are arrested and should be contained

by Turbulent-Heart 8 hours ago

Very true. I agree. My point is, how much can the rules/safety advance so that the willingness is balanced by acceptable levels of risk. I willingly ride my bike, I rely on rules to ensure I won't be hit by a car while doing so. Not trying to equate the two, but it's fair to think about.

by PreviousAmphibian 7 hours ago

Brain injuries aren't nothing.

by Anonymous 7 hours ago

Or maybe we allow the sport to continue with all the injuries and violence since people who get in to the sport know exactly what they are risking.

by GoalAccomplished3745 7 hours ago

Then they need to stay away from the general public and not throw a hissy fit when they start beating their wives due to CTE and she leaves him

by Turbulent-Heart 6 hours ago

"Switching Boxing to a fight with pool noodles removes nothing from the sport" Tackling IS football. Played move different if they're defending tackles rather than flags. There are scramble plays where the defender gets his fingers on a QB but doesn't have the strength or hold to bring him down, in flag that play goes differently. It's a different sport. Like saying you could just play all hockey on fields to save ice costs.

by Business_Simple8195 6 hours ago

Well, I'm kind of not. I think if we want to say that combat sports are about technique and athleticism, then Knock outs shouldn't be an acceptable way to win. You don't become a prize winning author for throwing away the other books, you win by selling more books or writing better books than the other guy.

by PreviousAmphibian 6 hours ago

Because even though they won't say it, I think football fans want the risk of injury. They want people to go out there and risk their bodies. They won't watch it otherwise

by ella13 6 hours ago

They do. Just how people like boxing or MMA. Violent sports are fun to watch.

by TruthSuspicious3377 6 hours ago

I mean… it removes the hitting at a minimum.

by Anonymous 6 hours ago

Football is disgraceful and needs to be outlawed in general

by Turbulent-Heart 5 hours ago

I think the CTE and brain damage has gone out of control at this point. Give it 10 years and there will be 100 men dying of it and confused and scared potentially violent because of it. Add onto the fact domestic violence rates rise during football Sundays.

by Turbulent-Heart 5 hours ago

Maybe it'd be entertaining, maybe not, but it would be an entirely different game

by dickicarroll 5 hours ago

Yes . Like lets sell fast cars in NJ or off roads in Nevada . What do we want.? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant

by Ok-Stage6035 4 hours ago