Cities should own sport teams, amirite?

Every NFL team made a profit last year

by Anonymous 6 months ago

I get that but most of the NFL owners are so incompetent. You're probably right tho

by Anonymous 6 months ago

Double the incompetence and add 10x the bureaucracy and you get an average non corrupt government efficiency rate.

by Anonymous 6 months ago

Mostly just Dan Snyder and David Tepper

by Anonymous 6 months ago

And Woody Johnson and Jerry Jones and Jimmy Haslam and Virginia McCaskey and Mike Brown. And there's probably more

by Anonymous 6 months ago

Yea there's a couple stinkers out there. Jerry jones currently, but not historically. But still that's only like a couple out of 32 teams. Most owners are pretty smart

by Anonymous 6 months ago

Jerry Jones would like a word.

by Glad-Paramedic6050 6 months ago

Maybe. But in a much more direct way, it's because of profit sharing agreements across the league. I'd imagine these would be harder to coordinate if teams were government entities.

by Aggravating_Log 6 months ago

Can't even run the DMV right.

by Anonymous 6 months ago

The Kraft group does this with ticket sales at Gillette. They give a percentage of each ticket sale to the town of Foxboro.

by Anonymous 6 months ago

True

by Anonymous 6 months ago

No one, they still profit

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

The local school teachers of course!

by Vadakiehn 6 months ago

Green Bay Packers have entered the chat IMO, more teams should be fan-owned so the non-fans in the area don't have to foot the bill.

by Intelligent-Gap-2042 6 months ago

Welcome to German football (soccer for you guys)

by Anonymous 6 months ago

My favorite professional team after the Red Sox.

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

At least

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

Ok. Do the teams that own them lose money? Are they not profitable now? There are good and bad purchases, but those teams are still racking in the dough.

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

Some teams absolutely go into the red some years to make championship pushes or to build a roster in anticipation of a later payoff.

by Beneficial-Agency234 6 months ago

In Sweden our teams are, by law, majority owned by the fans

by Anonymous 6 months ago

Another dub for you guys

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

General Manager is now an elected official.

by Inevitable_Load_767 6 months ago

i want the chargers back in san diego!!!!

by Turcotterussell 6 months ago

Ya and the dodgers back in Brooklyn

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

You're not rooting for a rich guy's company, at least a real fan wouldn't be.

by Kozeyjace 6 months ago

Name a team. Celtics? Rich guys company. Dodgers? Rich guys company. Etc.

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

Packers

by Anonymous 6 months ago

Out of 124 major north american sports teams, That's literally the only team in North American sport. it's also an exception to the NFL rule that specifically disallows this form of ownership. They were grandfathered in in 1980

by GreatNeighborhood 6 months ago

That's why they're my favorite. They're the one, not the 99+%. You did name one tho props there. Can you another? Like I'm genuinely curious.

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

I think there's a difference between rooting for the team and rooting for the rich guy's company.

by Aggravating_Log 6 months ago

Is there tho? If you root for the team you're just rooting for the company through a filter. It's no different than rooting for Microsoft, it's just the products more entertaining.

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

Maybe. Idk. The success of the owner's business is a tangential to what I'm really cheering for, which is the success of the team. For example, if the ownership changes (assuming the team didn't move) most people still cheer for the team.

by Aggravating_Log 6 months ago

Yes that's true as well

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

What are you even talking about? Are you talking about the owners?

by Outside-Rush 6 months ago

Yes. They're all privately owned.

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

You really think thay rooting a team on = rooting the owner on?

by Outside-Rush 6 months ago

You don't have to go to the games or buy apparel to be a fan and enjoy watching them. If you do, that's a personal choice. Do the teams make them money? Yes. That's just how capitalism works. You don't HAVE to spend money to be a fan.

by Outside-Rush 6 months ago

No arguments here. But none of this matters to my point.

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

How does it not? You're point is what, that being a fan of a team is rooting for a billionaire? Which we just agreed wasn't true.

by Outside-Rush 6 months ago

It's why pro sports kinda sucks, you're just cheering for a billionaire to get richer… and I say this as a bears fan

by Anonymous 6 months ago

Maybe you are? Lol don't speak for the rest of us

by Outside-Rush 6 months ago

With the contract amounts the players get? They can pay for thier own damn stadium and team needs. It's absolutely ridiculous for 25% of the sport wannabee fan boys expecting the other 75% of taxpayers non sport fans to support your circus act heros.

by princepagac 6 months ago

This. Many cities already foot a lot of the bill.

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

I'm aware and from the state also. And it's wrong. Pittsburgh Steelers tried to get a statewide 1% tax for them several years ago.

by princepagac 6 months ago

What's happening with the maple leafs and politics?

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

Oh ya haha that would be interesting.

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

it would be really, really, really bad for society. it's bad enough already, thanks

by dickibrendan 6 months ago

How would it be bad? Maura healey put philip Eng in charge of the MBTA in Boston. How would this be any different? Worst case scenario, they pick a bad person who still makes the city a lot of money. Then they replace them. Would give people more of a voice in the matter too I guess.

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

This would lead to mass corruption and laundering. Horrible idea.

by Anonymous 6 months ago

A) So you're saying people might try to profit off of it? Like they already 100% do. B) all government is inherently corrupt? There's corruption sure, but you are way overestimating how much. Something like this would not be ‘massively corrupt'. Maybe a city or two would have some problems max.

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

If someone gets injured inside the stadium you now sue the city instead of the team. There is no positive that could come out of this and you can bankrupt the city. Investors can now be in city dealings and have the power to push laws and tax cuts. You're opening the floodgates to corruption.

by Anonymous 6 months ago

I'm mad enough already about the Jets paying Aaron Rodgers $40m without it being funded directly by my taxes.

by Standard_Security791 6 months ago

Are you telling me the jets aren't making a profit now? I'd rather have more tax revenue and possibly pay less taxes in the process.

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

Why would teams need to be "owned" in the first place

by Anonymous 6 months ago

Cities can't afford to run themselves, why should they get to be in charge of the team that I love?

by Anonymous 6 months ago

Exactly, maybe making the city more money would help them afford themselves lol. Also, people act like our government isn't competent. Flawed? Yes, but it could absolutely run a program like this. Especially when the layout has already been established, and especially if European countries can do it.

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago

European cities do not own their soccer clubs

by Anonymous 6 months ago

You realize the taxpayers of the city still make out like bandits with private ownership. All the people that come to town and stay in the hotels, eat at the restaurants, pay a bunch of sales tax. The city also gets tax revenue from the venue which is hundreds of millions of dollars. All that just to make the team public owned by council members who have no clue how to run a sports team and will probably end up losing money and giving up.

by Anonymous 6 months ago

I like sports, but having taxes fund something that at the end of the day isn't actually a necessity is stupid. Not all teams are equal either which would mean this last MLB season the LA Dodgers would probably be making a lot of money for the City of Los Angeles while the Chicago White Sox would be absolutely hemorrhaging money from the city of Chicago

by Anonymous 6 months ago

Many teams are not making much money at all and the owners are hoping to make money on the appreciation after a sale. Cities wouldn't be able to do that.

by Anonymous 6 months ago

Every big 4 sports franchise in the US is making money hand over fist.

by Anonymous 6 months ago

Like the other guy mentioned this is just wrong

by Nadiagleichner 6 months ago